[Hershel shakes his head, unsure of what to even say. He had no idea how someone could do any of what Zero did. It was so beyond him in the scope of it's cruelty, he wasn't sure he wanted to ever understand.]

Calhoun told me once this... experiment, sometimes they needed to change factors to get different results. [He sighs, running a hand through his hair nervously.] We've only had one betrayal so far. I think that upset them, they want more variety. Maybe they don't, maybe they just want betrayal and suffering.

[He says nothing for a moment before looking back to Colette.] How are you holding up? [A pretty stupid question, but she seemed almost beaten down and he was concerned.]