[He definitely got played, sorry Jake. Mama drama is rough, dude. Again Hershel isn't sure how to word what he has to say, so he pauses a moment before slowly trying:]

I didn't at first, for a while I just... felt comfortable that I'd seen enough of how you acted to trust that you'd ally if you said you would. [He glanced up.] But that changed. I guess I don't really know when.

[He frowned, looking down again.] No, that's not true. Bingo was fun, even that silly video game before was fun, I wanted to start trusting you then but- I guess... I never expected you to come check up when Akiko- [Yeah that was still hard. He frowned.] When Akiko died. You didn't need to do what you did, but you came and you saved her jacket.

[And he glances to Jake, with a weirdly hard to read look, given it's him.] I... don't think I ever thanked you properly for doing that. It meant- well, it meant a lot to me. I think you're a tad cold and more than a little too distrustful and rash sometimes, but you're definitely a good person, Jake. That's why you're my friend, more than doing goofy things with Ema's hair or dramatic shows of trust.